Round 1

[bbcmusketeerskink]

Welcome to the BBC The Musketeers kink meme

The lowdown: You post your prompt, anon or not. Someone else will hopefully fill it (also anon or not). Not for profit, just for fun. And in this case, for king and country.

Anon is on, IP logging is off.

Rules:
No wank
No kink-shaming
Be respectful to everyone
The mod is not your babysitter
Use the warnings

Mandatory trigger warnings/warnings for both prompts and fills:
non-con/dub-con
abuse (physical and mental)
issues such as racism, sexism, homo-/trans-/-bi-/ace-phobia etc
character death
suicide
self-harm
eating disorders
extreme physical or mental illness
substance abuse (alcohol, drugs, medication)
bullying
gore and horror

If this list misses anything, do let me know, though please understand that if absolutely everything is added this list will never end.

You are encouraged and advised to add additional warnings at your own discretion.

Please make use of the subject line.

If your prompt alludes to the book or any of the other adaptations, please let us know which one.

Lastly, prompt freezes (which I have to say I’m really not fond of) etc will be at the mod’s discretion. I will decide on a prompt cut-off point for prompt posts once I know how fast the meme moves.

Rule addition: No more discussions on the prompt post. If you want to discuss something, we have a discussion post. If you want to wank about a prompt, that's not what the discussion post is for. That's what your scroll bar and that little red x in the top corner of your browser is for.

Archive:
https://delicious.com/bbcmusketeers

Discussion post:
http://bbcmusketeerskink.dreamwidth.org/557.html

Official fill post (I strongly suggest you use it for better visibility of your fills):
http://bbcmusketeerskink.dreamwidth.org/418.html

Comments

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

I think at around that time Spaniards were considered black. D'Artagnan may well have been too. It's weird how perceptions change.

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, the Spanish were Europeans and one of the most powerful nations worldwide. They were certainly not seen as black.
In fact Anne of Austria was in fact a Spanish princess (Habsburg House sure but Spanish was still her mother tongue).
Neither D'Artagnan nor Aramis would have registered as anything but European to their contemporaries (white didn't become widely used until the middle 18th century, a good hundred years after the show is set). The first post-antiquity classification of humans wasn't published until 1684 by Francois Bernier.
There was certainly racism but it would be directed at people who look very different like Porthos but not Aramis or D'Artagnan. And mostly people discriminated against each other based on nationality (usually because their nations were hostile towards each other like France and Spain, France and England, etc) or religion (in 1630 the Thirty Year War was still in full swing and mostly justified with religious differences, also, yeah, protestants and catholics really didn't like each other) or class (the real D'Artagnan was essentially nouveau riche since his grandfather had been an ennobled merchant and D'Artagnan only made it where he was through his mother's family who were old blood and by old I mean really old (9th century and they're still around nowadays).

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Also, European discrimination was nothing like the American black/white issue - you really can't just map US racism over and have it make any sense.

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

DA

To be fair, this is a kink meme. I'm writing an ABO AU, for crying out loud, and people are handwaving sexual mores left right and centre.

While I agree wholeheartedly with all historical points raised, if that's the OP's kink...

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I don't think there's anything wrong with the kink, I'd love to see Athos sticking up for his friends! I think we're just trying to work out what kind of discrimination would work.

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

I have a question, actually- can someone explain Gascony to me?. because from my understand, d'artagnan's actor, Luke, is Sicilian Italian, which explains his darker features because there was a lot of intermixing in the south of Italy with northern Africans- but is there a similar reason with Gascony? sorry, I'm just very confused by anything french, and apparantly Gascony has it's own language as well, so I've always been very lost on this lol

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

Gascogne is a province of France in the south west on the border to Spain. There was a lot of intermixing between people from all over Europe and the Mediterranean thanks to things like Crusades, Muslim States of Spain but especially trade. So yes, people can end up looking quite dark but as mentioned above no one would have batted an eye at that.
Don't worry too much about the Gascon language. It's a dialect of occitan, a roman language spoken in south france and north spain. Not too many people speak it nowadays and D'artagnan would have spoken French because he's nobility (at least in real life and in Dumas' books).

Re: Any/Any (warning: racism, abuse) Athos is having none of it

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you so much! That was very helpful and nice of you to explain :)