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Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

If you want to get really technical, you could divide it so:

People who shouldn't be flirting, but totally are:
Milady, Athos, Constance, Queen Anne, Adele, Married Woman, Flea, Emil Bonnaire, King Louis

People who knowingly flirt with people they should not flirt with, though they themselves are free,
Aramis, d'Artagnan, Remy, Porthos

People who have on screen only flirted with people with whom they're in a relationship:
Marie Bonnaire, Richelieu, Jacques, Charon, Married Woman's Husband

People who have flirted onscreen, but never with someone they knew they ought not to have flirted with:
Spanish Ambassador, Waitress, Ninon, Suzette, Vadim, Marie de Medici, Guard Captain, Alice, Agnes

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

Richelieu is a priest in the Catholic church, so he def. belongs in the first category.

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Mmmmmm but was there any expectation at the time of keeping that? He's much more a politician than a religious figure (though actual Richelieu was pretty religious).

I made those categories late at night, and need to work on them, anyway.

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

Mmmmmm but was there any expectation at the time of keeping that?

Probably not universally, no. But that's true of everyone on that list.

(There is a bit in the novel where Richelieu is about to do something that will affect Our heroes negatively and Athos distracts him by starting to babble about his mistresses. Which suggests to me that even if everyone knew that Richelieu wasn't exactly chaste, it was not 100% uncontroversial.)

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I need to rewrite that list so it makes sense. Hang on:

People who are flirting outside wedding vows, serious relationships and/or vows of celibacy:
Milady, Athos, Constance, Queen Anne, Adele, Married Woman, Flea, Emil Bonnaire, King Louis, Richelieu

People who knowingly flirt with people they should not flirt with, though they themselves are free,
Aramis, d'Artagnan, Remy, Porthos

People who have, on screen, only flirted with people with whom they're in a relationship:
Marie Bonnaire, Jacques, Charon, Suzette, Vadim, Marie de Medici, Guard Captain, Duke of Savoy, Duchess of Savoy

Random other people who flirted:
Spanish Ambassador, Waitress, Ninon, Alice, Agnes

You're right, anon. Every other religious person so far has been really good about keeping their vows, so Richelieu is an outlier and deserves the spot.

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

Surely that visiting Duchess who was trying to seduce King Louis counts as well?

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt couldn't tell if she was actually hitting on him or just generally friendly, but sure.

Re: The Issue of Infidelity

[(Anonymous)]

Had married popes till 1449 and it is said 50 percent of preists were married and accepted by people infifteenth cetury. I know this 300 years past but marriage was still argued and would happen from time to time. Always a controversial topic in its validity in church.